I was really scared to go to the Government and talk about any of these things. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, with the Agency, yes, sir. [3] Telephone interviews of Campbell March 19, 1994; Jones, March 19, 1994; Williams, April 4, 1994; Garner, August 14, 1999. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Would those summaries be destroyed as a matter of routine, to your knowledge? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Referring to that list, would you tell the Committee where you were stationed during your period with the CIA? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, for a limited period. [12], A suggestion of smuggling activities within the TSBD comes in the form of boxes too large to be practical containers of books. JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report. There was a problem loading your book clubs. Read instantly on your browser with Kindle for Web. Mr. WILCOTT - This was SNIC, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee before they became a black power group James Wilcott's Testimony Intro Author: Jim Hargrove <hargrove@enteract.com> . If you should need to contact me, you may do so in care of the Lubbock Avalanche Journal newspaper in Lubbock, Tx. Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your knowledge, would any records at CIA Headquarters document that Oswald was a CIA agent? In the new 2017 November release of JFK documents, he was interviewed in executive session under oath by the House Select Committee On Assassinations on March 22,1978. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. I then proceeded to write an article called The Glaze Letters for the May 1999 issue of Jerry Roses JFK assassination research journal called The Fourth Decade. They constructed a new building in the northwest part of Dallas, which both companies shared. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you prepare such a list? Many notes and gifts, often created by him, are left for us as a tribute to his kindness and love. [1] Testimony of James B. Wilcott, RIF 180-10116-10096, pp.25-26. In 1938, he became a salesman for Scott Foresman. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't know how to answer that. WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1978 . Mr. PREYER - I believe you have written an article about this, an unpublished article. Fritz was on the sixth floor examining the scene when Truly told him of this. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, I did not. Mr. PREYER - The Committee will resume. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you bring that list with you today? During a follow up call, he told me that the two musicians were not in contact with former members of the band and knew nothing of their whereabouts nor of their current activities. Oversized boxes were also seen by Joe Bergin, Jr. when he visited his father at the 411 Elm Street building. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So basically, you checked only one of the advance books, is that correct? This was making payments and keeping pay records. He claims the charges were dropped, but he stated that he turned away several newspapers and magazines offering huge amounts of money for his personal account of the assassination. Mr. CORNWELL - Did they request that you leave? But their manner was very relaxed. At the end of the hallway to his right was another door. Mr. PREYER - So that in XXXX, you indicated, six or seven people talked to you and were, as I understood it, rather definite about the Oswald connection? Mr. PREYER - Thank you very much and we appreciate you and Mr. Schaap being with us today, and the hearing will stand in recess. Mr. DODD - In. Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your personal knowledge, CIA records XXXXXXXXXX were destroyed? Mr. WILCOTT - None initially. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Jack Cason, the TSBD president, was a stocky, robust man before the assassination. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And you testified without any reservation? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - Not that I know of. Mr. DODD - You may have covered this as well, Mr. Chairman, and, if you have, I will drop the question. Customer Reviews, including Product Star Ratings help customers to learn more about the product and decide whether it is the right product for them. She said that no one by the name of Glaze was currently working for the newspaper, nor was that name among the files of past employees. Well, they would go through the files and take out anything that they thought was, say, indicative of how this flap occurred and change the files. In the work that Oliver Stone has done for his upcoming four-part documentary series on the JFK case, he uncovered information that Truly was not being paid directly through the Texas School Book Depository in 1963. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Can you give the Committee the names of any persons who might corroborate your allegation? 25-26. It was a guard-type function at the station, which I worked for overtime. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, it is your testimony that, once you left the XXXXXXXX station, people, both at headquarters, in Langley, and at the Miami Station, made references to Oswald being an agent, is that correct? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. I asked Mr. Peets if he knew of any member of the band who disappeared in Dallas in the mid-1970s. Mr. WILCOTT - XXXXXXXXXXXX George Breen, Ed Luck, and. However, the woman became terrified at the mention of it & said she would deny she ever said it if I tried to publicize the incident. The Warren Commission did all they could to delay the arrival time on the first floor by Adams and Styles in order to remove the two girls from the stairs when Oswald would have likely been on them. ", and things like that. Mr. WILCOTT - I believe that Oswald was a double agent, was sent over to the Soviet Union to do intelligence work, that the defection was phoney and it was set up and that I believe that Marina Oswald was an agent that had been recruited sometime before and was waiting their in Tokyo for Lee Harvey Oswald. Copyright 2016-2022 by kennedysandking.com All Rights Reserved. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. We appreciate your being here today, Mr. Wilcott. Mr. SAWYER - What would they say? Also at this location were the office suites of eight schoolbook publishing companies, including Scott Foresman, Southwestern, Macmillan, and McGraw-Hill. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - My boss, Frank O'Connor said that this was told him by the public safety commissioner and that the FBI had told the public safety commissioner. The two new employees were administered a written questionnaire asking about their opinions of current topics of the day, especially social issues. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I have. Mr. DODD - Did anyone else at the Agency know of your views at the Agency and did you communicate with other people about your dissatisfaction? the day we would list all of the advances that were made in an advance book. Mr. WILCOTT - I believe they would at one time. Was there something more to this move than meets the eye? Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report at Amazon.com. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did this Case Officer tell you what Oswald's cryptonym was? There was a lot of excitement going on at the station after the Kennedy assassination. Their apartment looked as if no one had ever lived in it. or C.I.A. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I have nothing further, Mr. Chairman. * JFK Facts editorJefferson Morley will personally answer your JFK questions. He was an accomplished journalist and author and had worked as a radio engineer in his early career. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. In addition, all of my interview notes and tapes inexplicably disappeared. As many JFK researchers know, James Wilcott was a CIA accountant from May 1957 through April 1966. The incident involving two government agents asking new employees strange questions also occurred at this location. Mr. PREYER - And Miami, was that comparable in size? Mr. GOLDSMITH - I am sorry, I didn't hear. Mr. SAWYER - Who is the public safety commissioner? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I am sure somewhere. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir; I think I had good performance reviews right up to the time that I left. Mr. WILCOTT - -- to the Miami Station. When I got to the phone, two of the lines were lit up. Mr. GOLDSMITH - You testified that your records were only kept for thirty days, is that correct? For in Barry Ernests book, The Girl on the Stairs, the reader will read that both Vickie Adams and Sandy Styles told Barry that they did not see either Shelly or Lovelady when they descended from the fourth floor to the first. We are operating under House Resolution 222, which mandates the Committee to conduct a full and complete investigation and study of the circumstances surrounding the assassination and death of President John F. Kennedy, including determining whether the existing laws of the United States concerning the protection of the President and the investigatory jurisdiction and capability of agencies and departments are adequate in their provisions and enforcement; and whether there was full disclosure of evidence and information among agencies and department of the United States Government and whether any evidence or information not in the possession of an agency of department would have been of assistance in investigating the assassination and why such information was not provided or collected by that agency or department, and to make recommendations to the House if the Select Committee deems it appropriate for the amendment of existing legislation or the enactment of new legislation. Mar 26, 2017, 6:30:52 PM to The dubious allegations of James Wilcott, a former CIA finance officer who testified before the HSCA in executive session, are still repeated by theorists promoting. Below is Mr. Glazes letter: House of Re. Mr. WILCOTT - All in the finance -- in accounting all of the time. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have any explanation for why none of these people have come forward with this story? Mr. WILCOTT - They were maintained on a thirty-day basis, and then they were closed off at the end of the month. [19] Immediately after Adams and Styles went out the back door, Officer Marion Baker came in through the front door and met Roy Truly. Learn more. Mr. SAWYER - Thank you. Mr. DODD - Talking about hours afterwards or a day afterwards? What it was is hard to guess. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - Dozens, literally dozens. Also Present: Michael Goldsmith, Counsel, and Gary Cornwell, Counsel. As a CIA employee, Wilcott stated under oath that many people told him that Lee Harvey Oswald was an agent of the CIA after the assassination had occurred. [27] Gerald McKnight, Breach of Trust p. 115. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, from May of 1957 to January of 1960 - Their whereabouts are completely unknown. Joe Molina, credit manager for the book depository since 1947, worked with FBI informer William Lowery in infiltrating leftist organizations. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people from the CIA did you speak to who speculated that Oswald was an agent? Mr. SCHAAP - Mr. Chairman, I would like to interpose, I guess, an objection, although I would like to make it more in the nature of a request, that I have some problems in terms of advising my client with respect to possibly self incrimination, that I would not advise him to go into questions of his specific knowledge of the oath and the application to what he did other than the fact that he has told you, which is a fact, that he did sign the oath; but to, go into his mental processes as to whether he felt what he was then doing related to the oath in a particular way, I would request that those questions not be asked on the grounds that they may violate either his First Amendment rights or his Fifth Amendment rights, if that would be all right. Kennedy Assassination Committee. He also sent a copy of the letter from Blakey as well as a 1978 article from the Dallas Morning News concerning the aforementioned Carolyn Arnold, who states she definitely saw Oswald in the second-floor lunchroom at 12:25 pm. She told a reporter that the FBI falsified her statement to read that she thought she caught a fleeting glimpse of Oswald on the first floor at 12:15.. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - That was November of 1977. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, he was. Mr. WILCOTT - When I first started speaking, both my wife and I discussed it and we felt that we should be speaking out about not only Oswald but some other things. He was not questioned by the Warren Commission. Mr. DODD - And your dissatisfaction with the Agency and with the course of American government preceded the actual assassination of President Kennedy? Mr. GOLDSMITH - With whom? James T. Tague was an unintended victim in the Kennedy assassination, hit by a stray bullet while stuck in traffic on the way to pick up a luncheon date. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So that they would be routinely destroyed at the time of auditing? Glazes meetings with Shelley were therefore not at the Ambassador Row facility, as I originally believed, but rather they occurred at the building on Gemini Lane. Mr. WILCOTT - They would have summaries of some sort. In April of 1966, I resigned from the CIA. It seems to me that I recall jotting it on a little pad. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Obviously, the distance to Ambassador Row was too great to serve as a useful guide to anyone seeking to verify Glazes account. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, you did. Mr. DODD - Am I to believe by that that you were not aware at the time you made the disbursement that it was, in fact, an Oswald project? I went immediately into the clear space on the ground floor and asked where there was a phone. Mr. WILCOTT - In December of 1975, in the little magazine called The Pelican at the University of California, and an interview was conducted by a reporter from that magazine. The other one was the Lone Star School Book Depository, also located in the city of Dallas. time and date of assassination and correspondence with time and date of Wilcott's hearing of assassination. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Upon your memory and the list that your brought with you today, will you tell the Committee the names of the CIA Case Officers who you remember working XXXXXXXXXX in 1963? this allegation? Mr. CORNWELL - The cryptonym -- did you write it down at any point? Mr. WILCOTT - I don't confirm any of them except with the community renewal program as coming from there and I am. If it is true that Shelley was affiliated in some way with CIA or U.S. intelligence, that would be a disturbing and potentially significant development.[10]. After completing the questionnaire, the two F.B.I. Mr. WILCOTT - It was right at my window, my disbursing cage window. According to an FBI report dated November 22, 1963, warehouse manager Roy Truly said, The Texas School Book Depository has occupied the building at 411 Elm Street for only a few months. [16] At the same time, the president of the company, Jack Cason, spent five days a week, Monday through Friday, in uniform at Fort Wolters at Mineral Wells (80 miles west of Dallas). Ruffians driving by yelled derogatory things and threw objects at the house such as half-empty beer cans. Mr. WILCOTT - In conversation. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, actually even prior to the Kennedy, assassination, my wife and I both became disturbed about the stories that we kept hearing about things, control of newspapers and so on. I called the number of the Avalanche Journal in Lubbock, Texas and got the personnel director. Mr. WILCOTT - I was recruited from the school in Syracuse New York, where I was taking a course in accounting and busi- ness administration. He saw two white men sitting by the stairs. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, how long were these advance books retained? This we concluded from putting various pieces of information together. The CIA and the JFK Assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - That is true. Dave -- I can't remember his last name, Deputy Chief of the China Branch; and then a person whose last name was XXXXXXXXX in the XXXXXXXXX Branch. Had the seemingly insignificant trail of bread crumbs I stumbled across had not been so he avidly guarded, I might never have given it a second thought. Other people who worked at the book depository suffered as well. Then, as time Went on, I began to hear more things in that line. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. CORNWELL - What type of people were they? As Rose points out, this is a bit odd also, since most of the building witnesses were taken to the sheriffs office, which was much closer to the TSBD than police headquarters. Mr. WILCOTT - I think the most significant thing that can be actually substantiated is the circumstances surrounding my employment with the community renewal program in Utica, and I was the finance analyst for the community renewal program in Utica. Mr. WILCOTT - My wife and I both left the CIA because we became convinced that what CIA was doing couldn't be reconciled to basic principles of democracy or basic principles of humanism. WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1978 Mr. CORNWELL - At several points in your testimony you have stated there were six or seven persons, and on each occasion you raised the extent of their knowledge as "knew" or "believed." Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, then, really, no purpose would have been served by checking those records? Mr. DODD - Am I to presume that you told your wife of the conversation you had with this case officer at the time it occurred? Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, not that I can recall. Mr. WILCOTT - On two other occasions, I was on KPOO Radio in San Francisco and I discussed in detail, in quite a bit of detail, the speculations and also the incident of the case officer contacting me at the window. Mr. WILCOTT - I may have, sir, and I can't remember. Mae Brussell showed copies of this document to the editors of Globe. The incident interested me enough to question the F.B.I. Mr. WILCOTT - I am sorry? Mr. DODD - Just one second, then. every CIA Case Officer who worked XXXXXXXXXX in 1963? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Did you write it down or do anything? Upon exiting the elevator, he saw a short hallway. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What do you mean by the term "agent"? The owner of the establishment, rightwing oil man, D. H. Byrd would have had little problem approving that kind of clearance. I do. Mr. WILCOTT - In 1968. [30] In that same article Rose writes that Shelly was one of the building employees who identified Oswald for the police when he was brought in to the station. Mr. CORNWELL - What, if any, investigation did the Agency do with respect to that? James Wilcott worked out of the Tokyo CIA station at the time of the assassination. Enclosing the back area is a high, chain-link fence with coils of barbed wire on top. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How did you know, in 1963, what type of security precautions the Warren Commission had for conducting its investigation? Mr. DODD - And you and your wife both went to work for the CIA about the same time? Mr. WILCOTT - I have no idea, sir. [10] Larry Ray Harris at the age of 44 died in an automobile accident on October 5, 1996. They told me that I had passed both of those. Mr. CORNWELL - Last November? Mr. GOLDSMITH - At the time that this allegation first came to your attention, did you learn the name of Oswald's Case Offficer at the CIA? Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct. Mr. CORNWELL - Why did you leave the CIA? Through another researcher, I obtained Glazes mailing address. Mr. WILCOTT - It was at least a matter of weeks and perhaps as much as three months after. The Zapruder Film: An Investigative Report, Project Northwoods, Operation Mockingbird And The Assassination Of JFK MLK And RFK: An Investigative Report, JFK ASSASSINATION AND THE DAVID FERRIE FILES: - An Investigative Report With New And Related 2017/2018 JFK Document Releases, Wall Of Secrecy - Inside The JFK Assassination: - How James Angleton & William Harvey Set Up An Assassination Team Inside The CIA, Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations, Update your device or payment method, cancel individual pre-orders or your subscription at. Mr. CORNWELL - Is there any chance that that record stil exists? Mr. GOLDSMITH - During what years did you work for the CIA? For many years he assisted organizations that helped veterans, monitored the nuclear power industry, and worked to ensure basic human rights. Common to both the 1977 and 1989 letters are the strange men asking strange questions. James Wilcott worked out of the Tokyo CIA station at the time of the assassination. He asked that a copy of the letter be sent to his homenot to the business addressand after he read it, he would check into it. As described to me by Joe Bergin, Jr., son of the regional manager of Scott Foresman, working conditions changed dramatically after the assassination. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How did you become employed with the CIA? He refused to let me quote him or use his name in print. Mr. CORNWELL - Do you have any knowledge, based upon your tenure XXXXXXX as to who would have trained Oswald in the Russian language if that occurred? At the time of the assassination of JFK, Wilcott worked at the Agency's Tokyo station where he said he was told by other Agency personnel that funds he himself had disbursed were for "Oswald" or the "Oswald Project." It has every one that I can remember. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. One man had blonde or light-brown hair, wore a white shirt, and was armed with a rifle. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you discuss this information with Mr. DODD - And it includes the information that Oswald was an agent? Mr. CORNWELL - At what point in time did your discussions outside of the Agency first become a matter of publication in a newspaper or magazine or on television? You mentioned the day after the assassination you talked to someone at the station about it. Carolyn Walther, a street spectator waiting to see the presidents motorcade, observed a two-man sniper team at a window on the fifth floor on the far-right side of the building. From January of 1965 to about March of 1965, I was at Langley in the same area, in finance, policing accounts and auditing of special accounts, and I was promoted up to GS-9. Mr. DODD - I have no further questions. Mr. WILCOTT - Not really files; it was my book. Mr. CORNWELL - Is that the only reason? * 2017 JFK has a detailed guide to the massive JFK disclosures scheduled for October 2017. "It is inconceivable that a secret intelligence arm of the government has to comply with all the overt orders of the government." - CIA CounterIntelligence head James Angleton . Consider the following letter: Re: THE ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY, While working as a journalist in Dallas late in 1974 and early 1975, I met and spoke with Lee Harvey Oswalds supervisor at the Texas School Book Depository in Dallas, Texas. Mr. WILCOTT - No. [2] As we shall see, there is evidence that Oswald worked with another CIA agent in Dallas. TESTIMONY OF JAMES B. WILCOTT, A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY: Mr. GOLDSMITH - For the record, would you please state your name and address and occupation? Mr. SCHAAP - Do you mean, how many people who were in the CIA or how many people in the general population? Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I am sorry -- if Oswald was what? Mr. DODD - And this was a view shared by you and your, wife -- The stark contrast in the quality of scholarship between the two books was one factor convincing him that there was a huge conspiracy behind the assassination. Mr. PREYER - Thank you for being here today, and I will call the subcommittee to order at this time. Just as in the case of Carolyn Arnold and Roy Truly, the strange menace that Glaze encountered in early 1975 continued to follow him through the course of his life. Mr. WILCOTT - Very much. The Three Barons proves that it is possible (with enough research), to reconstruct the organizational chart of the JFK plot. SILENCED! Mr. GOLDSMITH - And will you tell the Committee what that relationship was? In 1947, the year when the CIA was formed, the Dallas city directory lists William Shelley as a clerk for the Hugh Perry Book Depository (the old name for the Texas School Book Depository), and that he had a room at 515 Martinique Avenue. . There were two depositories in the state of Texas. Mr. WILCOTT - At least -- there was at least six or seven people, specifically, who said that they either knew or believed Oswald to be an agent of the CIA. responsibilities were primarily record keeping and disbursing of funds. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, my tires were slashed and damage done to my car and I believe sugar poured in the gas tank, and whether this was actually CIA or not I have no way of knowing, and it could also have been just for harassment as a result of antiwar activities but I think there is also a possibility that it could have been attempts to intimidate me into talking about the CIA. That he continued to serve in a military, or semi-military, capacity at the same time he was working for a schoolbook company is indicated by his obituary, which said he was a veteran of World War II. The November 14, 1961 date came from Leon, Sexton branch manager in Dallas from 1961 to 1964. Mr. WILCOTT - The "need-to-know" principle was not all that we followed, and just about every one of the big projects that the agency was involved in, information leaked out, and we especially within the CIA knew about it, and someone would go to a party and have a little bit too much to drink and start saying things that they really shouldn't be saying to keep in mind what the "need-to-know" principle was. Mr. DODD - I am a little confused, I suppose, Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. She said that she had been in the personnel department since 1982, and she never knew anyone by that name. Sorry, there was a problem loading this page. Mr. CORNWELL - When this cryptonym was given to you by the officer, did any part of it ring any familiar note with you? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. WILCOTT - I really didn't think that the Warren Commission was out to really get at the facts, and I am not, saying that they purposely did anything, because I don't know, and maybe they did or maybe they didn't, but certainly, they didn't impress me as really trying to scrutinize the evidence that there was. Mr. SAWYER - He was in Utica also? As far as that they actually said, they said they were having trouble with Oswald and that there was dissatisfaction with Oswald after he came back from the Soviet Union, and the would say things like "Well, you know this was the way to get rid of him -- to get him involved in this assassination thing and put the blame on Cuba as a pretext for another invasion or another attack against Cuba. Rightwing oil man, D. H. Byrd would have been served by those... 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