After it happens, I keep receiving bills in the mail. Associate Director, REI Just devastated with my results today so just want to cry it out and then I will respond to you. The company offers Elephant Gigantes seeds, as well as free seeds that come with recommended shelf life information included. So I think I was on estrogen for about a couple weeks then started stimming (antagonist protocol). After 2 years, tons of tests and 5 IVF cycles, it still feels unreal.Estrogen Priming protocol does not have birth control pills. The hypothesis is that if we treat patients prior to starting their IVF cycle with estrogens ( the estrogen priming protocol) or androgens ( such as DHEA) , they will produce more eggs because more follicles will be recruited when we start the superovulation . It is so hard to be hopeful after 3 failed attempts. Froze 3. Best of luck x Reply Quote Even though Estrogen priming has a vague guidline, many REs tweak it to suit each patient, situation, etc, Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: IVFCA Fertility Network 2013, This is not recommended for shared computers. - 1st follicle check u/s and b/w. The combination of drugs and their dosing is known as a protocol and while it may seem like there are a dizzying number of protocols, the reality is there are only a few core options. Back to home page. I understand the idea for the patch is to help time the growth of follicles vs. increase the number? There seems to be two schools of thought: The one thing I will say is that I am definitely stimming much longer than I did for my IVF #1 which did not have the esrogen. Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. Of course, during a regular cycle most women naturally produce only a single mature egg. Those 2 were my worst cycles. Right ovary has 2-4 follies<12mm. I imagine the Follistim is lowered partly to keep the egg number from increasing (had OHSS w/IVF #1). Candice maybe11 129 Dec 08, 2009 #3 Hi, Was wonderin, I just finished my 3rd failed IVF cycle using EPP. On CD2 I started 300 Gonal F and 150 Menopur. Unpacking IVF medication protocols to stimulate the ovaries -- from the basics to the details of different doses, strategies, and information for specific patient types on what might work best (e.g. I just had my ER last week: . If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. Northwestern Medicine. This was all on the phone, so not 100 percent on what the protocol would be. The stim phase was just like a usual antagonist cycle. I was on the highest dosage of Gonal with that cycle. Any info welcomed!! Did one cycle of IVf with 450 of gonal F and then cetrotide and ovidrel. I did EPP, using a climara patch every other day starting day 8 after ovulation until period came. It seems less is more in my case!! We use cookies to improve your experience on this website and so that ads you see online can be tailored to your online browsing interests. By clicking sign up, you agree to receive emails from FertilitySmarts and agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Really hope the next cycle goes well for you! In the case of the fresh transfers, you can clearly see a similar effect to what investigators found above: success rates drop with more drug. On the other hand, the Long Agonist protocol cant use Lupron as the trigger because it already deploys Lupron elsewhere. Estrogen priming refers to supplementing women with extra estrogen (estradiol) during the luteal phase - that's the last two weeks - of the prior menstrual cycle before beginning ovarian hyper-stimulation for IVF. Confirms hormone levels are baseline and gets antral follicle count as a basis for cycle prognosis. This comes from a 38,000 patient European registry. Avery & Sydney born June 12/11 at 30w1d. It's an estrogen priming protocol. RE put me on Estrogen priming protocol, and I am on Lupron and Cetrotide as well.On Friday, (cycle day 6) the newer nurse thought she saw 11 follicles.. ranging from 5mm to 9mm.. now, Cycle day 9, the other nurse, who has been there forever, saw only 5 and she had a hard time locating my other ovary. Our usual regimen is similar to those proposed below: hysteroscopy, prolonged estrogen priming, Estring for local effects, baby aspirin, vaginal phosphodiesterease inhibitors, pentoxifylline, acupuncture, etc., with admittedly little data to support any of our treatment strategies. I have been doing some research and reading and I was reading that for older patients, a different protocol where less meds are used is usually recommend. My doc started me on estrogen patch, one patch changing every 3 days until my period for 5 days and I just took it off and will be takingClomiphene after a day of taking off the patch, then after a day start stim. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. FET October 6, 2010 - this is it it's 1 week since last patch. Lupron when take in larger doses suppresses pituitary function, but when taken in smaller doses, it does the opposite. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. And I think EPP is the standard at CCRM as well for DOR ladies. This is my first time posting and was hoping for some other stories like mine. There is a ton of data out there for 'younger' women 35-42 with fertility issues but I'd like to be able to g, I was taking Estrace and Androderm patch when I went in for my base sonogram and they said I was already ovulating! This is not recommended for shared computers. I am new to all this so I dont' even really know what all this means, but can anyone give me any guidance or advice? Patients using EPP exhibited similar clinical PRs (21.5% vs. 21.4%) and live birth rates (15.0% vs. 15.3%) per started cycle. However, the study has two major shortcomings and for that reason most experts arent ready to concede that rates of gonadotropin over 300 IUs per day is harmful. You should also label each packet with the variety name, date, and a brief description (e.g. Anyhow, do you know how what they wanted the priming to do? Find other members in this community to connect with. Please enable JavaScript in your browser to load the challenge. My clinic doesn't like it. I did that back in the beginning of the year but I ovulated in my own and terrified it might happen again. I stimmed for 13 days. No it's not a "low dose" protocol exactly. By and large there are two easy ways to think about protocols: how much gonadotropin (the drug that prompts follicles to grow) gets used, and what other drugs get used alongside the gonadotropin which is typically what defines a given protocol strategy. I have my appt in a few hours. Heres an example from the same study. A third option, the Flare protocol is used less often and only in very specific patient types (often poor responders). So there's one med w apositive side effect! Are you wanting to learn more about the IVF process? I did estrogen priming after my first Ivf cycle ended in mc (nothing to freeze) & my 2nd cycle was canceled bc I wasn't responding well to stims. I will be doing an FET in March/April, I started taking 4mg of estrace on cd 21. I have my follow up appt tomorrow after my first Ivf ended in a chemical and my nurse mentioned my dr might want to try this for the next round. Julie, will be KMFX for you and those embryos! Comparing the good cycle to the other 3, I see why. This drugs known as the trigger shot. During the first two cycles I was on F, HelloHave been reading the boards, but have never posted. IVF#2 started sept 19th In some cases, priming may not be required. In some cases, a combination of both types of triggers may be used. Fx! Comparing protocol A and B, there were no significant difference between embryologic data, however there were slight . Wow that did make a huge difference for you! No BCP - started my period, did cycle day 2 testing FSH was good (I had high a FSH of 15 so EPP helped that) then started meds. Twins & Multiples: Your Tentative Time Table. [Dr. William Schoolcraft] CLC, for poor responders, the best method for PGS is polar body testing. I know you ladies all have your own stuff going on and I feel terrible asking but I dont know who else to askBarb, penny, joy, anyone else, Ive read that an estrogen priming protocol is good for DOR women, do you know if this is true? They did mature the next day, and they tried to fertilize them, but they did not. Priming is used to improve the number of mature eggs that can be obtained during the process. Trying concieve since 40 Cost: $1,000. All rights reserved. Lets start with how much gonadotropin to take. Are they all the same thing? 05/18/2018 23:18 Subject : Protocol . November 8 - we're having twins:) Wow!!! Good luck! Sign up now for your monthly dose of fertility info, experiences, and insight. I would be doing a low stim protocol with estrogen priming. I went to a UK FSH friendly (thank you joy for the recommendation) clinic for a consultation. ER sept 29th - 11 follicles, 9 eggs retrieved poor responders or women with PCOS). My friends did this estrogen priming protocol and highly recommend it and were successful. Anyhoo, I am just curious whose done this and what the difference was in terms of their egg numbers and quality.especially if anyone used it for quality. I mean, you could try to get pregnant naturally, since as far as I know taking estrogen priming (particularly Estrace medication) should not harm your fetus if you were to become pregnant. If ok, then start stimulation The many repeat bloodworks & ultrasoundsLast stimulation shot + triggerRetrievalSo I started my process in the mid-September and my retrieval happened in early NovemberAlso, I was on MicroFlare protocol, so I am not sure what other medications you might be taking. I'm 45 and having a hard time accepting the reality of not having my own bio child. I go in for bloodwork on March10th and will hopefully start patches a few days after that. On the other hand, if too much gonadotropin is taken, a woman is at higher risk of hyperstimulation, known as Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome or OHSS. From NE Ohio to North Central Mississippi, everyone has their own ideas and preferences for what they will plant this year. Thank you for subscribing to our newsletter! This hormone is injected by the patient and directly instigates the ovaries to grow more follicles. Just not sure what type of protocol would be best. Why so many days of esterace( 15-16 days before starting/adding promethium for 10 days) then the stim cycle, 3. My first IVF cycle I was on the antagonist with stims started on Day 3.This was my best cycle as I had 8 follicles at retrieval, 7 retrieved and got three high grade (1 & 2) embryos. But there is one more protocol to consider: a flare cycle. Below is an oversimplified way to visualize this. After seven long years consumed by infertility I am finally moving forward, wishing my son was with me, but grateful for the two children I have here with me. maternal age" i.e. One thing to keep in mind is that every cycle, there is a new cohort of follicles availble to be stimulated, meaning that during different months the same protocol may work more successfully than others simply due to the natural variation in available follicles. This community is sponsored by RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association, an Inspire trusted partner. Please select a reason for escalating this post to the WTE moderators: Connect with our community members by starting a discussion. Worked for me! An FSH drop-down protocol is used to Started doing the patches 10 days before my period was scheduled to start. Still seems to have had plenty of effect though. I would ask your doctor, but I guess you just do nothing while preparing for the cycle. Looking for info/success stories with Estrogen priming protocol with DOR. Estrogen priming also allows the patient and clinicians to schedule the ovarian stimulation cycle and the timing of egg retrieval. This was my worst cycle ever only yielding 2 retrieved follicles that did not fertilize. Good luck! My first aIVF cycle was cx'd , due to poor/slow response and was probably due to the Birth control pills and lupron. Will let you know how things go from here. Went to retrieval anyway, did ICSI, but it didn't fertilize. I did EPP my second round of IVF. After you go off BCP theyll do a baseline bloodwork and ultrasound to see what your levels are without having drugs in your system. Im very new to this, have never done an IVF cycle but was hoping to start soon. Our last cycle was such a bust! I was not informed of this ahead of timeand was pretty upset that that they threw away something that might have had a chance. 1997-2023 BabyCenter, LLC, a Ziff Davis company. Thanks! The doctor just wants to make sure you dont release an egg while getting your body ready for a retrieval or transfer. Similarly, many doctors believe low dose approaches work equally well as high dose approaches on women who are likely to be hyper responders. These are women who have a high AMH or had a high number of eggs retrieved in a previous cycle. IVF#5 July 2010 - will be using estrogen priming Slightly higher doses of Follistim and Menopur to try to get a few more eggs. Most of the encouraging studies have been in poor responders, but because the trials were so small, most never met statistical significance. BFN. How does a micro-flare protocol differ from mini IVF vs natural cycle? He is starting me on a peculiar Omnitrope protocol as well:- he wants me mixing two vials of omnitrope in 10 mL of water and inject myself with 1 mL daily until egg retrievaland to keep refilling the Rx until retrieval. :-/. AMH 28. Before starting the pills, we need to wait until you are in the correct stage of your menstrual cycle (the luteal phase). Estrogen Priming protocol does not have birth control pills. They suppress leading up to your cycle so that when you start the meds you get a group of follicles to grow together. - Longdom | Contributor. Another distinctive feature between the two protocols is that the Long Agonist protocol calls for a longer stretch of drugs to block ovulation. Inhibin is an often overlooked hormone which suppresses (or inhibitits) the release of FSH from your brain during the last week of the cycle (FSH is the chief hormone responsible for making your eggs "grow"). I started epp with cetrotide x 3 days. Cetrotide was added CD9. Also covering add-ons like human growth hormone. I have had 4 failed ivf cycles on the short antagonist protocol which all failed, 3 out of the 4 cycles I had 1 average embryo which resulted in chemical pregnancies and 1 cycle I had nothing to. Thanks so much! This time she is switching me to EPP w/ 100 Follistim/150 Menopur. The misoprostol was not expensive; on average, it's about $30. IVF #1, we did Follistim, Menopur, Cetrotide. I don't know why they didn't take, but I still think it is a good one to try. However, for poor responders many doctors worry such a long duration of suppression can hurt outcomes. As you can see below, amongst women with PCOS, the Antagonist protocol drives comparable success rates but with far lower risk of hyperstimulation. There are two types of gonadotropin FSH and LH and most data shows you need both during an IVF cycle. Do they use this protocol as sort of standard for someone who is starting? Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, Medical Director, REI Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences - Infertility Inspire Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility at 40+ Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility Support Community in Partnership with RESOLVE Join Inspire Create a Post Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences drgolfermd Aug 14, 2015 4:53 AM Dear All: I'm not doing IVF, however. Or are there different levels of this? Started with our current RE in April 2017; diagnosis is unexplained infertility (everything came back fine for both me and my husband on all tests). The meds alone cost $5,400. He also said he would start with BCPs to suppress ovulation- he explained why, but at my age that just doesn't sound like a good idea to be suppressing anything. Editorial Review Policy. It was my best in terms of numbers and success. I'm 40, doing IVFdue to age and a mc at 10 weeks due to Trisomy18. Have questions about navigating your Inspire support community or need assistance from one of our Inspire Moderators? Several functions may not work. I have AMH of 0.1 or something like that. 14 retrieved, 9 mature, 5 fertilized normally, 2 grew to the 2-cell stage then arrested, 3 did not grow beyond one cell. After my labs on CD6 they kept 300 Gonal F but upped Menopur to 300. IVF#3 September 2009 - cancelled - poor response i had success with DE. I was 41 at SG and they also put me on BCPs and i knew it was going to oversupress me -- and it did. Hi there. Natural cycle is no meds to stim so u get 1 egg at best. Similarly, when an investigator named Revelli decided to swap out a few days of gonadotropin for clomid in this poor responder population in Italy (and thereafter resumed gonadotropin at low levels), he saw similar rates of success to more conventional levels of gonadotropin use. my RE is going back to the drawing board for my final IVF. :) worked well for me. Gonal f 225, menopur 75. Specifically, poor responders (a less than pleasant way of referring to women who produce few eggs per retrieval), do equally well taking 150 IUs of gonadotropin as 450 IUs. BFP oct 16th!!! IVF#1 with ICSI spring 2006 - 3 eggs retrieved, one transferred - BFN It's possible to pay with credit card or Western Union, but PayPal isn't an option. Second, this study was only done in cycles using a fresh transfer. Yea, sometimes the smallest of tweaks can make such a big difference. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. I had 5 follicles but only one matured so I was converted to IUI which failed. How many follicles were you usually starting with? Regular menstrual cycles between 21 and 40 days Presence of both ovaries Meets criteria for DOR by the recent ASRM/ACOG Committee Opinion antimllerian hormone (AMH) value less than 1 ng/mL antral follicle count less than 5-7 and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) greater than 10 IU/L or In my opinion, it's good to be at a place that uses it a lot. Once you surge (and presumably ovulate) you count 10 days from the surge. Check out this video to learn more about the. For many gardeners, it starts with tomatoes. If you did it did you have success, what is your situation, did you do pills or patches and for how long, etc.? Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). I need to know if anyone has had a similar experience, but later got pregnant and where did you go. Thanks for well wishes. Thus, the negative impact of taking a lot of gonadotropin may be minimized in a frozen transfer. However, given some of the additional features for each protocol (for example, the duration of suppression), some patients might find one preferable to the others. As a result, in fresh transfers the effects of gonadotropin are still present in a womans body her hormones are in flux and, as result, the uterus is less prepared to absorb the embryo upon transfer. As we discussed there are drugs that stimulate follicles to grow, suppress the follicles ability to release their eggs, and then help catalyze the follicles to mature their eggs so they can be retrieved. Is estrogen priming the same thing as using BCPs to suppress? Privacy Policy - However, in frozen transfers, the effect was smaller and didnt come close to clearing statistical significance. Starting CD21, I was applying Vivelle patch every other day until my cycle started. It is used on lowish amh patients and those who respond poorly to drugs which affect their lining. Polyspermy refers to the fertilization of one egg with multiple sperm cells that result in the formation of an embryo with abnormal sets of chromosomes. February 7 - lost our little twin, Baby B had no heartbeat at 20 weeks, June 8, 2011 - DD was born healthy and her twin brother was born to Heaven. 2. The answer lies in the drug the protocol uses to trigger the eggs to mature so that they can be retrieved. Oh yeah that could have been it or a combo! That could be why they are decreasing your Follistim too. I have been diagnosed with low ovarian reserve. The dose of gonadotropin is typically measured in International Units Per Day and ranges from 0 - 900 with most IVF patients receiving 250 - 450 IUs per day. Good luck! . He did say there are some studies that DHEA and CoQ10 could help, but the, Hi all. Estrogen Priming is completely different, so therefore without birth control pill. Hottest Topics -- Last 30 Days I hope a tweak of the protocol will help or maybe it was just an off cycle for me. Anyways, just wanted to mention that in case you want to ask your RE about it. Fortunately, there are a few steps you can take to prevent and. Has anyone started a Jun fresh IVF group? Today, were seeing more well-respected doctors choosing to compliment lower dose of gonadotropin with clomid or letrozole in this group. These drugs help a woman grow multiple follicles, and thus multiple mature eggs. Fingers crossed that your period waits for the right day. In the next section well walk you through the mechanics of each protocol. This clinic is more generous with freezing, so they tested and froze a few other blasts as well, which the other clinic would have thrown out. I know this is old but was your period seriously delayed after estradiol patch? :) Keep us posted on your progress! I think the stims usually last longer with EPP, but my quality was much better. As you can see in our summary below, there are multiple drugs that can perform these two functions the one thats chosen dictates the protocol strategy. We are going to bump up my gonal f too. EPP is an aggressive form of an IVF Antagonist Protocol. It was day 3 of my period. Often two other types of drugs are needed to accompany gonadotropin: those that block eggs from maturing and being ovulated before they can be retrieved, and those that help trigger the eggs to mature so they can be retrieved. A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. There are a number of drugs that can be tacked onto the beginning of a cycle that may increase the odds of success. Hi. Estrogen priming is usually matched with an antagonist to prevent ovulation. Doing mild IVF - and wondering how that is going to work as the test today was that i only had one follicle visible - Any idea what to expect? How it works: It's a two cycle process. Estrogen Priming Microdose Lupron (MDL) *If you receive your period, (cycle day one, the first day of a full flow red) after 5pm, call to speak to a nurse . We're not even 100% sure we are staying with my current clinic but I wanted to research ahead of time either way. TBD how many fertilize, etc. Ultimately, for only a handful of patient types has one protocol shown itself to be superior to the others and we profile those below. So I guess Im asking, do you all think I should do a EPP antogonist? 14 retrieved, 2 Girls!! The OOP meds program here at the Bump also was a life saver as we got meds for our 4th and 5th tries. HiI'm new. This amounts typically to a Coke vs. Pepsi kind of decision. That patients must use an hCG trigger they cannot use Lupron as a trigger (because theyre already taking it) which is problematic because Lupron is the only trigger shot that fends off OHSS. Have done 3 IUI's - 2 w. clomid and 1 with Gonal - F. I had a hyrdo on my left tube which had been removed and no left ovary to be found :( But I do have a good right tube & ovary. I started taking 4mg of estrace on cd 21. Thanks! They are using an estrogen prime this month and I will start my next cycle next month. There are 2 - 3 core protocols: the Long Agonist, Antagonist and Flare. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. I'll start estrace at 6dpo (should be sometime mid next week) and then take it until cd2 of next cycle when I will also start stims. Estrogen/androgen priming protocol improves egg quality and . I'm 36 & TTC 2 yrs. Estrogen Priming Protocol: In some women who respond poorly to the short protocol (e.g., women diagnosed with Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)), this protocol may enhance ovarian response, perhaps by synchronizing more follicles for recruitment and retrieval. 1st IVF/ICSI age 41 : Gonal F 300; 3 eggs; 2 fertilised; transfer day 5; BFN You still may have a BFP, so let's wait to see before we say it didn't work!! I did estrogen and testosterone priming on my second ivf because I was oversuppressed during my first cycle. Though I had 4 or 5 follicles to begin with, only ended . I'm starting with this IUI and then will see how I respond and move forward from there. This is the most commonly used protocol whose primary features are a shorter duration of injections and a far lower rate of OHSS, thanks to the ability to use Lupron as a trigger. Ultimately there are two protocol strategies doctors will use: either the Long Agonist or Antagonist protocols. Estrogen priming is typically done for about seven days before the start of controlled ovarian stimulation (the IVF cycle). Ovarian Stimulation Baseline Ultrasound I'm back from my appt and we are going with EPP. View Full Term. These include estrogen, FSH, LH and inhibin amongst many others. I might have ovulated rather than had empty follicles. As a result, most fertility doctors shoot to retrieve 15 to 20 mature eggs per cycle. The combination and duration of drugs to stimulate, suppress, and incite ovulation taken together comprise a protocol. 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