Yes, the Colt action is powered by a V spring that returns the trigger and the Smith and Wesson features a trigger return spring. The 2020 Python features modern stainless steel alloys and a re . Colt didnt screw it up. Description. If the trend with the new generation of Pythons follows like the originals, the next barrel length should be 2 1/2. Yeah, this gun is a hot mess. I asked Colt why 4.25 and not 4 like the original release. It is friggin gorgeous. I havent seen a gun yet, but in pictures the hammer also appears slightly smaller, if so, supwifdat? (TTAG isnt at the top of many major manufacturers Christmas card lists.) Have you looked into what could be causing it? What you are describing sounds like the exact same defect that I had on a Rossi break-action rifle. I assume no, but have not seen it stated. After the initial release of the Pythons, a few reviewers pointed out some serious reliability issues with the Pythons they received from Colt. I dont understand how thats even possible, and Id probably the be the guy to argue that its not. Never had an issue. . I much preferred the S&W Model 27 for looks, and the Ruger Redhawk for pure brute strength. But it takes much more time (in my limited experience) than blueing steel. i left vietnam in jan of 72 and at the end of jan i bought my first 6 blue python and still have to today and i can only say the the python is the greatest handgun ive ever had. Great gun I never should have sold. Even with the old Pythons, Colt made around 65 guns a day at their peak production. The Colt Python was first introduced in 1955 as Colt's top-of-the-line model. You made my heart flutter a bit with that description. Nothing jarred loose. it was beyond me how somebody could screw that up. I am dissatisfied customer, as much as how Colts customer service treated me as anything else. My concern seems to be unfounded. I have ordered 2 of the 4.25, hopefully consecutive numbers, though when I might see them in this environment, who can tell. Some of the time, I have to take a propane torch to parts to get them to come apart (eg, red Loctite). Beautifully finished, great trigger, accurateand broken. Lots of great detail, good pics, and I think a honest critical analysis of what you really saw vs Internet myth or focusing on early production miscues. I was impressed with the finish on the King Cobra, and it looks even better when theres more of it to look at. The new gun is basically a Boa though, even if they are calling it a Python. This is not the hand-fitted gun of the original models, and do I hope everyone can appreciate the level of work that goes into something like that. Dont mind the negative Nancys who are complaining. The cylinder continues to rotate until the bolt drops into the next cylinder notch assuring proper alignment of the chamber, barrel, and firing pin before the hammer is released. But theres only one way to find out. Hey, Nanking Nancy, lookee what I got! Screw or pin replacable front sight. The question that everyone will ask is, Does the new Python live up to the name? Yes. You covered the bases. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The cylinder on the 4.25 gun was blasted and caked with powder burns after shooting it, so much so that the cylinder squeaked when I moved it. We have 100s of Collector Grade firearms (not on auction) in our inventory and available for . Ive never calibrated one of those before. Fired a customers Colt Python once while I was an RSO. In a fascinating little bit of arithmetic, he would pay the same amount for the new Python in 2020. Colt says that if you have a problem with your Python, call them and they will send you a pre-paid shipping label. We are back to the famed bank-vault lockup of old. 2020 Colt Python Set .357 Mag 4.25". The new Python is a better gun. A 178 H&G is going to be a tough find. Now what they need to do is develop a 8-shot 357/38 revolver for competition shooters, like Ruger did with the Super GP100. The tests from Colt showed that they did not jar loose in recoil, so the defective guns were probably not tightened down property at the factory. After closing, it would again fire the first round, and lock up again. Double action. Theres no doubt the new trigger is better in every way. Ok While not a big fan of obsolescent wheel guns, there is something about the Python and he Rhino that warms the dried up black walnut I call a heart. Still, I tried a different method, and measured the end-shake at just over .002. This gun looks fantastic and your review was one of the best Ive read at TTAG in quite awhile. Have at it, which reminds me of the adage That is why they make Chevys and Fords,everyone can have what they want. Kracker, I love me a S&W 686. Theres another blueing salt for stainless available through Brownells. I never had any trigger hang-ups. No contest between a crafted steel revolver and a gun popped out of a mold. I was already shooting one of the guns, and talked with other folks who were shooting them as well. How is it that Ive never heard of a S&W or Colt sideplate shooting loose in 100 years of production guns before this? Great looking revolver! Remember when Colt shafted the civilian market, thinking it could exist on military contracts indefinitely? Perhaps because of the dirty Harry movies and others. There was a small bur around the firing pin hole that would stage on the fired case. We are cranking out some CRAZY manufacturing designs and tolerances now and fantastic pieces from companies like Ruger that have updated most of their equipment with massive expenditures on equipment overhaul. New wood grips that you modified to fit you . Please keep us informed like this. I put in 200 rounds of reloaded .357 Magnum through that new 6 Python. There is definitely more metal to the top strap. Offered in two barrel lengths, in 2020 Colt has given the world a 6" and a 4.25" barrel. There are no clicks to the movement, a continuous turn yields continuous movement of the sight blade. Quintessentially a target revolver, the Colt 2020 Python has pleasingly proven to be incredibly accurate. Offered in two barrel lengths, in 2020 Colt has given the world a 6" and a 4.25" barrel. You know, before the turn of the last century. Nice colt wheelies thanks for the good article. Most buyers will go out and shoot their stainless guns, but many folks would relegate a blued Python to safe queen status like too many do with the Single Action Army. Colt has changed from a manufacturing company to a brand marketing company, sadly the prancing pony isnt what it used to be and made its name on, pass. Ive always wanted a 2.5 one and would buy one of the new ones if they offered the option. I pulled the side plates from each of the new guns I had access to. The .357 Magnum can be a painful handful in a lightweight, snub-nosed revolver. Should it be there on a top shelf gun? Screws coming loose on a sideplate above? I'm very disheartened about this. Strike two. jwt, thanks for the review. Freaking EXCELLENT question. Took about 10seconds with a stone to fix. Too many recycled stories and a lack of depth. And if the Python performs as well as it appeared to during my short time with it, that backlog will probably increase. Boy, I dont know. I said double action revolvers. So has my shooting buddy, who experienced the same results when I asked him to verify what I was experiencing. Python trigger is smoother by a very very large margin. Got busier since then and havent had time to fight with it. Wow. After all, the older Pythons were bringing in $2-3,000 each. More than an homage, the checkered walnut scales are so close to the originals that they can be interchanged with many of the older model Pythons. If it makes your heart flutter and your blood pressure spike with joy, by all means, go for it. Colt got back in the double action revolver game with the Cobra. Re the group: this is why reviewers include the calipers in the picture, so people can see theres no shenanigans. I contacted Colt and asked for an explanation of these failures. Barrel Length: 6 in. The mainspring is the same V-type as the King Cobra. Well-written and thorough. They owned up to that and said that it was their fault. It never moved under recoil, it just moved so easily I found the lack or resistance made it a little harder to make fine adjustments. Until then Ill run my 686+ and Ruger Match Champion. I assigned that King Cobra to one of my older kids to learn to shoot with and between he and I, it now has thousands of rounds through it., Jon, have I told you how much I thing of you as my dad? The reintroduced 2020 model continues the great legacy. Any one is free to gamble with their funds as they see fit, isnt AMERICA grand,as for myself Ive gambled way too much to continue with any more colt products. And then, in 2020, Colt released the best stainless steel revolver theyve ever made. The Python is back! It just feels like the trigger wants to be pulled, like the gun wants to be shot. Ive looked it over and compared it to an original Python and theres very little firing pin protrusion compared to the original. I have ran a 178 grain hard cast SWC at just over 1340 fps with excellent accuracy to 100 yards. Customization on a revolver is a package deal. Well, the truth is, some stainless steels can be blued. The single action trigger on that gun measured at 4lbs 8.2oz and the double action measured at 9lb 2.7oz. Steel revolvers like this one are just worth the price. Gonna have nightmares.;). Finish: Semi-Bright I have a Galco Summer Comfort and a DeSantis Thumb Break Scabbard for my Ruger GP100 4.2. I now have a varied collection of plastic autos, steel autos, and revolvers and Im thinking I really need to get a Colt. That was the brushed stainless finish then, to be followed by the Ultimate Stainless finish in 1984. Sub 1 groups with both the 6 and 4.25 at 25 yards with a variety of ammunition. I own both the old and the new Python. Ive been waiting with great anticipation for a new 4 stainless. Maybe Colt will offer the blue from their custom shop? Outstanding value. Basically, if it goes bang, thumbs-up. MSRP: $1,499 (street price about $1700). The 6 model has the traditional three cut-outs in the rib, and the 4.25 has the two sections more traditional to the 4 older models. The Python grips never fit my hand right, and Ive never seen a Colt yet that could hold a candle to a S&W as far as triggers go. But other than that there dont seem to be any big noticeable changes. I couldnt hit the bank fast enough. One day the light goes off in your head and you realize just how good the piece really is. I had to have one, and about a month ago, I scratched that itch. A slight change in grip and trigger guard geometry allows better control firing heavy loads. I was really wondering about the new generation. I second the It was addressed in the article comment. Im just pulling for Colt to make some improvements. I didnt expect high marks in this category. Then they released the King Cobra and we could see the writing on the wall. Heres a corrosive agent (ie, blueing salts) you couuld use for the job: https://du-lite.com/shop/du-lite-3-0-salts/. Of the guns Ive looked at, none of them have it. Click here to view our other Live Auctions! Id trust this gun with my life any day of the week, even if that day was decades away. In every measurable way, the new Pythons perform just as well or better than the originals. Both say they fit the Python and SW 686 as well. BTW, i hope you and Jeremy dont leave TTAG, hands down the best writers/reviewers here! But Im happy with it. Find More at: https://www.patreon.com/GoldenWebb/ Please SUBSCR Show more Shop the GoldenWebb store Cowboy Beach Towel $30.99. Brand new 2020 Python 4.25 inch. no more light primer strikes. That depends entirely on what you are looking to do. Unlike the King Cobra, and more like the original model Pythons, there was no discernible movement of the cylinder during full lock up. Fantastic handling dynamics. Beyond the straight back pull with very little stacking, and a now confirmed consistent weight and feel, the wide serrated trigger shoe completes its cycle without grit or mush. I take a different view than many people. Colt Pythons manufactured between 1955 and 1969 also feature numeral-based serial numbers. But ultimately, results matter most. Blue or brushed stainless. As a person who has worked in very high-end and state of the art modern manufacturing, that ALONE is a huge problem. For my 6"-barrelled Python, the overall length is 11.5." As a gunsmith, I find thread locker in more and more and more places on modern firearms. You sound like you think semi-auto pistols are some kind of high tech new invention. This process is described the same way, and even on the same page (19) in the manual, with the King Cobra and the Python. And man, they do look cool. The Colt Python featured a fully adjustable white-outline Accro rear sight and a 1/8-inch front ramp with red inset. Please do call them back and let us know what they said. re: the need for thread locker on modern guns. This is the same system that has worked so well with the King Cobra and is now a well-proven and welcome change. But, I just dont like to pull on the cylinder release. But aint nothin wrong with some .45 ACP in a good 1911 or a Glock-style pistol (e. g. Ruger SR45). Dear colt, 2.5 round butt, PVD black and you can have my $1499 , https://www.gunbroker.com/item/865604298 This Gun. I removed an additional 0.010 inches of material from the surface of the hammer that rests against the receiver and voila! On June 2, 1955, the first production Colt Python models left the factory and launched what still remains one of the most iconic double-action revolvers of all time. This detailed review implies the contrary, according to the author its all good. 3/4 underlug. For those that learn the action this is a great revolver, perhaps the greatest Colt ever. Folks who buy this will buy Guncrafter 1911 pistols and the SIG P210. Then I taught her to shoot a 4 Python with hot .357 loads around 1968, and she could not miss. I had Ted Blocker leather make an appropriate holster for it. These guns had loose side plates that may have caused the malfunction. After all, it was decades before Colt released a stainless version of the originals. The subject comes up sometimes when re-finishing post-64 Winchester 94s. I asked Colt why stainless, and not blue? Adjusting for inflation, the prices on the old production guns and these cost about the same. Not because I dont like it, because everybody else around me does. Its frankly shocking that they release a revolver with very commonly seen reliability issues and people are trying to handwave it away because theyre so thirsty for a new Python. Im curious if you still feel this way a year and half later? There are several guns Id love to see Colt bring back: Colt Woodsman target .22 semi-auto. What I saw was a whole lot of people referring to the same malfunctioning guns over and over again. The 178 is classic Elmer Keith. Nice gun-nice review. Pythons have always included a wide, deeply serrated hammer spur as standard. But that all goes out the window with hand polishing. I am more sad than angry over the outcome. I do remember being annoyed waiting, but I cant remember how long it took. At the time published MSRP was $505. As always, I lubed the gun (in this case with the supplied Lucas Oil Gun Lube) prior to shooting. Mfg Part Number. Five bullet diameters between farthest-apart holes in .38 caliber cannot result in a 0.9 group as one of your pictures shows. The top of the frame has been beefed up and the adjustable rear sight doesn't weaken the frame. No one got a brick. Rated 4.68 out of 5 based on 31 customer ratings. Accuracy. I was ready to be angry. Colt in the past 40 years or so quality control lacks or is fairly non existent,can they be corrected yes but at a price and one shouldnt have to with what colt charges for their product. Consistent placement on target was a breeze. Mostly we shoot .38 Spl and .357M, because thats what the wife and I happen to reload most (she prefers .38 Spl for its ease of shooting). The Python is cool. Not saying that S&W and Ruger, the two big players in that space, are bad by any means (theyre not!). Lyman oven makes around a 190 grain mold. I think its a weak mainspring thats mostly to blame (probably did that to simulate the original refined action) and/or a problem with the transfer bar/hammer. Heck of a startup for a 1600 dollar revolver, if you ask me. That may be good for Canadians, but not so great for those of us who can easily find holsters for 4 guns that may not fit just right with that extra 1/4 of barrel. On both the 6 and 4.25 guns, the Armscor 158 gr FMJ in .38 SPL shot the best. They are not vents. None of the threads on any of my guns included a thread locker material on them. I like it well enough that once all this beer virus crap settles down Im going to start looking for a lever gun in .357. I am looking forward to seeing more posts by you as soon as possible! It also exhibits the same lack of stack as the King Cobra. Very good review. Effective semi-autos (aka semi-autos in a useful caliber without performance issues) by a little more than that. Much for the better. A thing is worth exactly what someone will pay for it, and Im glad I ordered early. I would guess that the problems mentioned above are people not owning up to improper reassembly. I got an old k frame that would lock up after a couple of rounds. A stainless GP100 is one of the guns that I just cant seem to keep. 6, no Hillary hole and six rounds only. According to Colt, the top of the frame has 30 percent more steel in it by cross-section. 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