I recognize Pope Francis as the Pope. Take it up with them. Even an atheist will acknowledge that. Many of you are followers of Dr. Taylor Marshall's podcast series on YouTube, and are familiar with Tim Gordon, who co-hosted with Marshall for the . I guess Taylor Marshall aint Braveheart. For my part in some irreverent jesting in the wake of this spat, Im sorry. Some are born from culture, but they always look to heaven; they look to God. [25], Marshall briefly received attention from Donald Trump's 2020 presidential campaign for popularizing Archbishop Vigan's letter warning of a deep state working to undermine the United States of America. Dr. Taylor Marshall and Tim Gordon of the smashing TnT podcast (Taylor Marshall and co-host Tim Gordon) and YouTube channel join me to talk about the death of men and how it has affected the behavior of the hierarchy of the Catholic Church. Our Ladys Teaching On Prayer: The First of a Lenten Course on Prayer, What Fast Does Lent Require? Thats my ecclesiastical position. All this time I thought "Jesus Revolution" Film & the Sacrament of Baptism. For context, here is one of the podcasts they did a while ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxoUW3Tn01Y. Im blocking the 3 Gordons because they will not drop it regarding me and the SSPX. Dont act as if fringe groups and their leaders arent the mob w/ gang bosses on Cath twitter. When a guru, as in John Corapi falls many are scandalized, some in my parish are just now returning to the Church. He made it sound like he called back, Steve. Gotta be two-sided though. Not gonna tweet anymore on this, Agreed. Photographed by, Careers Workplace and Religion Columnists, Recreation Outdoors and Religion Columnists, Religious Music and Entertainment Columnists, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, The Latin Mass Society of England and Wales. (4:02 PM), Why all the handwringing about civility? You are wrong on all of these things. Anyway, if it is blue-on-blue attacks you are worried about, that is exactly what Im criticizing TM for. Please say a prayer for me. Catholic micro-celebrity is wholly meaningless and mostly fruitless. Professional gurus need money to survive but when their popularity wanes then the cycle begins again as the apologists have to reinvent themselves or go back to regular work. The book has been controversial in Catholic circles, drawing both positive and negative reviews from various media outlets. Catholic micro-celebrity is wholly meaningless and mostly fruitless. The largest imaginablepublic detraction w/ extremely sensitive private info you had as a family friend. In the course of the discussion, Marshall commits public heresy and schism. It is also a schismatic statement, since no one submits their minds and hearts to a Pope whom they think has said heretical things. I think it comes dangerously close. Im always in need of more funds: especially. (1:50 PM), Thats what we are saying: we KNOW the intent was bad. Reaching out to a brother in Christ is ALWAYS good advice. Earlier still, on April 12th, Gordon tweeted: Im not asserting with certainty that SSPX is in a formal schism. Something happened to men in the last 50 years. On 15 April 2020 I documented the fracas when Marshall abruptly terminated the contract of his associate in many videos, Timothy Gordon. I love dialogue; I care about Taylor; most of all, I love the truth. It is not submission to acknowledge that Pope Francis is the Pope. EWTN, Catholic Answers or their personal blog? Dr. Marshall has a large community of followers on his regular podcast shows, in which he discusses, together with his colleague Timothy Gordon, the new developments and happenings in the Catholic . I wondered why I hadnt seen Timothys face on the ubiquitous Taylor Marshall videos as of late . 2 or 3 of them. We must not fear differences. I think (all reactionary issues aside for the moment) Timothy Gordon shows himself to be acting as a Christian should (in terms of seeking to reconcile); Taylor Marshall is not acting in such a fashion. Timothy Gordon has come down on the critical side: I stand with FSSP and ICKSP. Yes, the Open Letter accuses Pope Francis of committing formal heresy, which carries the penalty, under the eternal moral law and Canon law, of automatic excommunication. But its certainly here now. For Bishop Barron to refuse a debate with Dr. Taylor Marshall, simply on the grounds that Marshall wrote Infiltration, not only substantiates Marshall's argument that the hierarchy in the Church has been infiltrated, but also furthers a narrative of what I call the Episcopal Leviathan. So the seventh accusation is patently false. And yet his accusers ignore his statements which agree with their point of view! See the pattern there? Hes got a good heart and weve both had a hard year. (3:13 PM), It seems possible to do with some but not most SSPX attendees, namely the ones w/o the schismatic attitude How do you unite the clans with those who call us FSSP bootlickers, a common attitude among SSPX ever since FSSP broke off. Why all the handwringing about civility? Such was my purpose for my rejoinder. Line by line commentary by Dr Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon. (. I said nothing about you or your family on here and never would! Shaws statement excoriating Taylor Marshall on the same page, was cross-posted, along with the joint letter, at reactionary venue Rorate Caeli, in apparent agreement. (12:11 AM), The attempts to throw Dave under the bus are silly. And now at each others throats, acting like enemies, over one difference of opinion? erred by receiving the Eucharist from the SSPX on Easter; regular parishes are widely shuttered and there was no other possibility of receiving the Holy Eucharist. Shots fired by Retrograde Gordon Bros against Marshall. Truly care for him. They do not teach the love of God, nor the love of neighbor. But now and then, a high-profile reactionary actually becomes more diabolically self-consistent (though further from the truth) and ventures over the line. . , and February 2022 marked the 25th anniversary of my blog. Now, back to what Taylor Marshall said: this statement bothers me more, I think its more heretical, more grievous than anything in Amoris Laetitia. Its an important intellectual matter and it merits dispassionate debate. Im delighted to see the recognition of Marshalls wacko conspiratorial extremism (better late than never). Theyre conceptually different[.] Look where it got them. 'Jesus Revolution': Talking to Jonathan Roumie, Defense of Vatican II vs. Oliveira Leonardo's Attacks. (12:25 PM), JP2 indeed spread a false ecumenism but wasnt trying to kill the TLM entirely. Marshall: theyre accusing him of the canonical delict of heresy. He used the huge analytics boost his channel got from TNT and then ditched me, presumably cuz Im not Trad enuf for biz expsn. One has the right to defend ones reputation, For the annals of history: I didnt leave. I was non-renewed against my wishes. (11:32 PM). . Pope Francis: But some might ask themselves: but why is the Pope going to the Muslims and not just to Catholics? Podcaster and YouTuber. (4-14-20, 8:58 AM). Friendly reminder that all top level comments must: start with "answer:" (or "question:" if you have an on-topic follow up question to ask). The answer always insinuates formal adherence to schism. (4:38 PM), People were accusing me of not reaching out to Taylor. This critique hinges on the implicit denial of Catholic doctrine and prudence: dismissal of the conspiracy because it is a conspiracy. . They acted like old buddies and intellectual "colleagues." Two laymen with a youtube channel, spreading the news about the Pachamama dunker guy, etc. I said Ive reached out several times in the New Year w/ scarcely a response. And so thats the situation that were in. All this time I thought "Jesus Revolution" Film & the Sacrament of Baptism. I await your reply, Taylor Its sophistical to claim (ever) that its too late for civility. Then, too, anyone who stands in judgment over the Pope, violating the teaching and law that no one may judge the Pope, commits the sin of schism. And God is always trying to bring everyone to salvation, in whatever way they are willing to respond. Get thicker skin. Now he is attacking people whose sandals he is unworthy to untie. . Without them we would be without the Sacraments. Why we need to stop validating the word feminism (namely its toxic meaning) with some kind of nice adjective, like Christian feminism, new feminism.. Tim appeared regularly on Marshall's YouTube show until early 2020, with the pair calling themselves TNT - Taylor and Tim. Timothy replied in that discussion thread: Its not a matter of opinion. Or admit that you have fallen into grave sin out of pride in the brightness of your own thoughts. Calling FSSP bootlicking (as many who were supporting your tweet were doing) IS fragging. 'Jesus Revolution': Talking to Jonathan Roumie, Defense of Vatican II vs. Oliveira Leonardo's Attacks, Tertullian's Eucharistic Theology: Lucas Banzoli vs. J.N.D. (2:20 AM), My homeboy@SteveSkojec (accidentally) mischaracterized my position, which is actually schismatic attitude in many/most attendees (but not all)[.] They were married on June 9, 2001, at Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church in Fort Worth, Texas. This is contrary to the first Commandment of the Ten Commandments. Marshall is publicly accusing Pope Francis of heresy on the plurality of religions, and of violating one of the Ten Commandments. There are certainly a few factors, as with all etiologies, but I speculate that his evolution regarding SSPX was probably one of them. (11:39 PM), God bless FSSP! The signatories to the Open Letter have committed heresy, and so has Taylor Marshall, by rejecting the teaching of the Council that no Pope can teach or commit heresy. Hes been ignoring me nearly 100% since almost immediately after he said he wouldnt do another year of TNT. Then, given our sinfulness and brokenness, God positively wills that there be other religions, such as the Christian denominations, present-day Judaism, and moderate peaceful Islam, so as to bring more souls to Him. Check out some of their funniest moments. Catholics who refuse to do so, deliberately and obstinately, are guilty of schism. We read the Vatican docs for their original public meaningthat which was ratified by a votenot their presumptive intentwhich isnt certainly ascertainable. Another wrong SSPX talking point. But not while shots are fired hourly on Twitter and crowds watch on. Hes got a good heart and weve both had a hard year. Cant be sensitive or grudge-holding over some of these memes. And he states this again, more specifically later in the video. Tim Gordon was a high school theology teacher at a Catholic school in California. Submit your mind and heart to the Vicar of Christ, as to Christ himself. Marshall also formerly served as the assistant director of the Archdiocese of Washington's Catholic Information Center. Its quite strange, no? Justice demands that I set the record straight. Their many gods are a reflection of human failings. Irrelevant. Cuz the Church wont clarify. So Marshall believes that Pope Francis has espoused particular heretical ideas. For now, we will meet the first of Marshall's critics: Dr. Jeff Mirus. Can we talk about that? When Pope Francis issued the early statement on many religions, some theologians complained saying that God only permits many religions. Too many apologists are gurus with groupies. Ill continue to hope.). He is the author of multiple books, including the 2019 bestselling book Infiltration: The Plot to Destroy the Church from Within. One has the right to defend ones reputation[.]. I am living my life and have no time for their judgments over my soul and my family. I don't know what happened first, but since then, what little I have listened to from Dr. Marshall, Voris, and Gordon since then has not mentioned each other by name at all, telling me that things might not be so amicable. Get thicker skin. That was the emotionally charged testimony of a 26-year-old woman, in the jury trial of 34-year-old Timothy J. Gordon, who is charged with two felony counts of aggravated sexual abuse, for two. [2:41 PM), Disagreeing respectfully is the OPPOSITE of fragging. This shouldnt be engaged in public. If anyone can enlighten me, that would be appreciated. 163: Is it OK to Criticize Pope Francis? I just dont want this dragging out in public. are the easiest: just send to my email address: apologistdave@gmail.com. Im sorry to say it but he is an ignorant fool. Posted on Friday, October 5, 2018. Im arguing that they failed by not clearly articulating their modernism[.] Wish ALL of them into the Kingdom of Heaven[. I wanted to continue, even w/ above: we were saving souls and thats all I care about: (7:57 PM), Thats why youll always see me warning against SSPX even though its trending now and him riding the wave. But in an April 2020 tweet, Tim said that his contract with Marshall was not renewed "against my wishes." Then the penalty for heresy and schism is automatic excommunication. People accused me of not reaching out, which I have been for months[. Required fields are marked *. Marshall is not super tactful and has got into fights with his former friends over it. VIGANO Part 2 [Podcast] . (2:04 PM), I dont think theyre formally schismatic, but its a case by case determination that is impossible to make unless you speak to the individual Kook yelling novus ordo is invalid! (2:14 PM), Just tried calling you. (4-14-20, 5:01 PM), Im fine. Sorry to see him go, but pride goeth before a fall. (4:06 AM), Photo credit:Thomas Splettstoesser (8-15-06):atomic structure of profilin in comlex with actin, PDB code 2BTF, cartoon representation, rendered with PyMol [public domain / Wikimedia Commons], Famed Atheist Champion Antony Flew Became a Deist, Taylor Marshall vs. Timothy Gordon (Hatfields & McCoys Redux). (3:18 PM), Completely unacceptable, Taylor. Sorry Gordons, but this seems to be the only way. (3:43 PM), I never claimed I texted Taylor yesterday. Taylor Marshall and Timothy Gordon. I'm not sure if any of you posted this story already. I do. This happened on Easter Sunday when Taylor Marshall received the sacraments from the SSPX: the breakaway group which is in imperfect communion with the Catholic Church. (10:21 AM), Honestly: All I care about is the truth. It needs to stop. But youre not understanding that conciliar documents need to be interpreted under the construction most optimally faithful to Tradition, wherever possible. Its contrary to the Councils, Tradition, Fathers.. * What Saint Bellarmine really said about Popes and Heresy. "The Catholic Monitor" Butchers My View of Papal "Eucharistic Pharisees" (Communion in the Hand). Tons of defamatory theories swirling about my motives and about the TnT breakup itself (which Marshall is conspicuously failing to correct). What would a resurrection of men look like? All of us, me included. And it aint gonna be clan chieftains Chris Ferrara or Steve Skojec or John-Henry Westen or Michael Voris or Patrick Coffin (who all preside over their own echo-chambers) either. Anyway, out of the blue, Tim departed from Dr. Marshall's channel. Oh, really? So I hope the Good Lord will make allowances for us lesser folk. My position is that, before the fact of our sinfulness, God wills that everyone know the fullness of truth, and so He wills everyone to be Catholic. The good part is that its NEVER too late to make up[.] You may not prefer your own understanding of the Faith over the teaching of the Papal Magisterium. Ill do it anytime. You get the picture. If it is correct great. He injects these fascinating interviews with his own distinctive blend of depth and levity. I think youre [Steve Skojec] closer to my position than Taylors since both of us wont attend SSPX (for ineffable reasons, even) and yet he will (5:20 PM), In the interest Christian unity, Id like to emphasize that I do NOT believe that@TaylorRMarshallerred by receiving the Eucharist from the SSPX on Easter; regular parishes are widely shuttered and there was no other possibility of receiving the Holy Eucharist. Lets take this offline and chat by phone later, yes? We patiently wait, endure, and we resist.. People accused me of not reaching out, which I have been for months, Did you see how many folks idiotically assumed that I havent been reaching out as a brother in Jan/Feb/March? He never said. ], Update: called Taylor a little bit ago to wish Happy Easter Monday and bury the petty squabbles. Patheos has the views of the prevalent religions and spiritualities of the world. Ego kills. Theyre conceptually different, THIS is the real issue. Wherever it leads. Meaning inheres in text, not intention. Unfortunately, he ceased to be Catholic in 2019, when he committed public formal schism by saying, about Pope Francis: I resist him to his face. Sorry Gordons, but this seems to be the only way. I cant fully access Taylor Marshalls tweets because he blocked me, but I can get at some: I am grateful to the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X, by whom our Marshall family received the Resurrected Body of Christ on this Easter Morn. Marshall goes on to make the judgment that Pope Francis has taught heresy and grave error, contrary to dogma. Pope Francis taught the view of conservative theologians that God merely permits a plurality of religions. Theres a lot of nonsense being asserted about the SSPX lately online. They are expressions of imagination and wishful thinking. He is, in a video far too tedious to link to, claiming that they are cowards. No particular deference is due to him (think Protestant). . You are wrong on all of these things. His critical statement on his web page was even more scathing: Taylor Marshall, a man I usually ignore, has insulted the signatories of this statement, as lacking the brave and bold spirit which, he claims, animated the late Archbishop Lefebvre. Thats why youll always see me warning against SSPX even though its trending now and him riding the wave. Just defending myself with the truth. Do not imitate him. God wanted to allow this: Scolastica theologians used to refer to Gods voluntas permissiva. Marshall then objects to the phrase in the Open Letter heretical Pope. They received confirmation from Bishop Kevin Vann in May 2006. RoP [. (8:33 PM), Never too late when people care for each other in true Christian charity (which I do for Taylor). And most of these people think youre scum just for going to the Novus Ordo. They talk about tough things but have a good time! No one has the authority to do that, as the Popes decisions are not subject to review. And most of these people think youre scum just for going to the Novus Ordo. The SSPX is the only church in town that is not a total joke and does not desecrate the eucharist. Daves position and mine, while distinguishable, are in close enough orbit to give faithful, non-contumacious, full-communion Catholics a nice spectrum to examine and choose from. Lets appeal to civility Ironic to have to say, because we produced 100+ really good shows on difficult topics over the course of 15 mos. If this separates me from Taylor Marshall and his more deranged fans, so much the better. Now its happening to the one who was his partner. Taylor Marshall is a heretic and a schismatic. Take it up with them. It is not that God wishes many persons to be in religions which lack the fullness of truth. #TnT1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mTcyTZ_Yc02 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMTNjOjDmjM 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKimOr9RRCI 4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV9v0RUlqMQ 5 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQUjt0uZv-g 6 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyJ_EX1UPtA7 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-AG_nBPhH4 8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmEMbyttCs The Catholic Talk Show - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd9w8fxlmP4 Yes, Dave and I disagree on stuff. (12:36 PM), Dave and I disagree about *how close* VC2 comes to embracing ecumenism/modernism. He never said. (9-7-21), LIVE: Defending FSSP/ICK from Taylor Marshall (9-8-21). [10][11], Marshall has published books in the fields of theology, philosophy, and historical fiction. In this episode, you will learn: You are wrong on divorce and remarriage, and absolution and Communion for people living in objective sin. If youre tired of politically correct mediaspeak, you want to see God back in the public square, and youre not allergic to having a laugh, this is the place to be. God forgive me for anything negative or incorrect that I have ever said about the SSPX. For my part in some irreverent jesting in the wake of this spat, Im sorry. . The point of departure was NOT receiving Communionwhich is licit all things consideredbut the apology for not just inaccurate statements about SSPX (which is great!) You said precisely about a schismatic slur. So he wills that there should be, by divine permission, other religions through which the Holy Spirit works, to bring more souls to Him. [13][14] He actively promotes traditionalist Catholicism through his various websites, blog posts, podcasts, and YouTube videos. Mind your business Steve. (3:39 PM), Nonsense. Too many apologists charge ridiculous amounts to come and speak at parishes and conferences. (3:54 PM), Yes, Dave and I disagree on stuff. (2) No Pope can commit apostasy, heresy, or schism, for then his faith would have failed. 2 of Daves biggest heroesSheen and Burkeagree with him[.] To all those who believed that I was criticizing his/his familys reception of the Eucharist from the SSPX rather than the implicit invitation for the less-educated faithful to frequent SSPX liturgy, note this was not my intention. But what God wants is fraternity among us and in a special way, this was the reason for the trip, with our brothers, Abrahams children like us, the Muslims. He wasn't just a teacher, he was a department chair, and popular with the area's conservative Catholics. Taylor Reed Marshall (born March 29, 1978) is an American Catholic YouTube commentator,[1] former Episcopal Church priest, and former academic, now known for his advocacy of traditionalist Catholicism. Lets take this offline, bro. 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